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Patrick Kingshill | Episode 485
Patrick Kingshill was born in Eureka California. He received his BFA from San Jose State University and MFA from the University of Nebraska, Lincoln. In 2014 Patrick studied glass and ceramics at the University of Sunderland, England and has recently worked as an apprentice for Takeshi Yasuda in Jingdezhen, China. Patrick now lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico
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How important is it to know your motivation when it comes to going after the interviews you tried for?
I think it’s super important. I will go back to what I said before about getting in touch with your skill set and your pros and cons as a maker, as whatever you are in life. It is super important to know how you would fit into or how you would make a certain place better and more productive. I think knowing how you are going to fit into that is really valuable.
When we pursue a goal we often get thoughts like, Who are you to do this? Or other negative thoughts. How do you keep those negative intruders at bay when you are going for a cold call?
That’s tough right, because I think you have to be able to take that in stride and not take it personally and definitely listen to what that other person is saying if they are intruding on your psyche negatively. I think having an understanding of your positive attributes and your own personal values can get you past that.
When we become judgmental towards others it usually means we are judgmental toward ourselves and being too hard on ourselves also. So how do you keep judmentalism out of the picture for keeping yourself courageous to be able to take the steps you need to take?
Well, I think it is about being realistic and taking a big step back and looking at certain situations and trying to understand where the other person is coming from, what their goals are, and taking the time to put yourself in someone else’s shoes and see what their personal motivations are, are going to deter you from casting judgments I suppose.
You turned a rejection into something positive. How do you make lemonade out of lemons?
So being an artist, I think this is applicable to anybody out in the world, that rejections happen, they are a very real and omnipresent force in one’s life and if you get beaten down by rejection then you are really just beating yourself up. If you just know that on the other side of rejection all you need is one yes. You cast out a lot of inquiries, I have hundreds and I have maybe a handful of yeses. You have just got to clamber onto those yeses and acceptances and those tidbits of affirmation and just cherish that.
Do you like the idea of using a script or do you like the idea of winging it or do you like to have a basic framework to go by?
I suppose I live my life by winging it. I think in my artwork and in my life in general I listen to my intuition a lot. My work is kind of formally abstract and not really referential to any specific thing and I think my main goal as an artist is to be as close as I can to my inner most genuine emotions, feelings, and ideas. So I really put a lot of value into my intuition and into making decisions on the fly and going with the flow with what I am feeling.
What is you favorite date with your girlfriend?
Well, my favorite date of all is happening this Friday. She is in an exhibition at Peters Projects in downtown Sante Fe. She’s got a piece in a really big show and we are going to get all gussied up and go out there and look at her artwork and schmooze with some people and I think her and I are going to go have a little dinner afterwards. You know, that’s a great date, going to an art opening and celebrating each other’s creativity.
Book
Heroic Concrete Architecture and the New Boston
The Art of Rejection by Arthur Gonzalez
Contact:
Instagram: @patriclassy